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Pojo.com's Yu-Gi-Oh! Interviews
Pojo Mod Interview With
CreatorOfThePointSystem

By Ally
6.13.07


Before I get started with the interview I like to thank Pojo for putting this up for me.

Pojo Screen Name: http://www.pojo.biz/board/member.php?u=51

Ally: Before we get started I like to thank you for doing this interview with me. For my first question what is your full name?

ExMod: Michael George Lucas

Ally: Cool name especially the last two haha. Anyways can you tell the readers a little bit about your YGO accomplishments?

ExMod: Okay...I'm definitely a bit more on the business end with this. I've made two Regional Top 4s, and made about $50,000 over the past three years selling Yu-Gi-Oh cards online. In addition to writing for various Pojo books, Beckett Media also has me writing for them for their Yu-Gi-Oh magazine.

Ally: Quite an accomplishment there. When you topped 4 the YGO regionals what were you running, what format, and where at?

ExMod: Both of the Top 4s were during Trinity format (Pot/Graceful/Duo all legal, along with BLS and various other brokenness). Both were at regionals hosted in Butler, PA, by Professional Event Services. (Very rare you find a TO, staff, and judges that know what they're doing)

Ally: How did it feel when you topped 4 the first regional?

ExMod: Great, especially because of the circumstances surrounding it. That was the height of my "netdecking > original thought" phase, and both of those Top 4s were done with card-for-card netdecks of SJC winners. It riled up a few members of the online community, which made me laugh for days on end.

Ally: What you mean height of your netdecking > original thought? Who did you copy in order to top 4 :p.

ExMod: : Let me look up those threads real quick...I know one was Eric Wu, and it was a Zombie build. The other, I need to double-check, if I can find it.

Ally: Ok thats fine. When you do let me know. So why did people get riled up about it? Net decking was promoted way before then so why now?

ExMod: I got into many heated arguments with other people about why I think netdecking is a good thing...mainly I think it's funny if someone really good comes up with a great idea, and someone else copies that idea (whether they improve on it or not), and then beats the original creator of the deck. If you'll recall the recent Shonen Jump Championship Philadelphia coverage, Nick Lagnella beat Theerasak Poonsombat (Better known as "T") with his own deck in the Top 8. This is pretty much the highest-profile occurrence of that happening.

Ally: That was funny too. Do you think net decking promotes playing ability a lot?

ExMod: It helps the new players become average players when they see a good deck and play with it, beginning to understand how it works. It helps average players who haven't netdecked become better as well, as they start to understand more intricate combos / rulings on certain weird combinations of cards, and they get a better understanding of the game because of it. I do respect the creative thought process it takes to make an unusual idea and make it work (like Tundo's Life Equalizer deck) but assuming you can understand how each card works with one another and how other cards work against your deck, just about anyone can emulate that success with a netdeck if they're smart enough.

ExMod: One thing I definitely want to throw out there while it's on my mind -- people think they should get an indefinite advantage with their deck being hidden. In my opinion, when you make a new decktype, you should get the element of surprise as an advantage ONE TIME ONLY, for that ONE tournament.

Ally: Kind of like Overdose? What you think about the OD burn deck when they hid it?

ExMod: That seriously offended me. They got a Top 16 finish; honestly, that's good enough that your deck is, without a doubt, part of the metagame as a Tier 1 deck. It deserves to be recognized at that point. I'm just glad that other sources posted the lists, and I did my part to spread them.

Some good DID come from this though -- Top 16 decklists are being posted instead of Top 8 now. That's a good thing overall.

Ally: You think it was because of OD deck that top 16 got posted or constant nagging to metagame?

ExMod: A combination of both, along with the format change with Top 16 going to Day 2. All 16 decks have to be typed up, as it's a rule that all 16 players get copies of all the other 16's decklists, so they might as well just post them; they're already typed up and printed out. There was nagging before that, and it just increased after the OD shenanigans.

Ally: So true! Whats your views on originality aside from net decking?

ExMod: That's part of what shows that netdeckers DO have skill, just in a different way. The mind of a person who comes up with the idea and the mind of a person to takes that idea and then ends up making it even better, or making a spin-off because of that original idea...both smart, but came about the ideas in different ways. You've got to respect each, honestly.

Ally: Do people get mad at you a lot of taking their decks and running them at a regional doing better then said person?

ExMod: Not really. Most people who are netdecked just want credit for having come up with the idea in the first place. Whenever I netdeck, I give credit. CITE YOUR SOURCES, people, it's not that hard.

Ally: LOL! Well to go away from the topic a little bit do you think Demise whould of been banned when it won a SJ? I mean Cyber-Stein got the suprised ban why not this card?

ExMod: Demise is much more easily sided against, and requires more cards to complete the combo (although it has more cards that search out pieces of said combo.) I honestly don't see Demise getting mid-format banned. If it's going to get restricted or banned, it will be done at the proper time, with September's list. I'm still bitter about the mid-format Stein ban, not because of the ban itself but the mid-format part. UDE really should have done a buyback program on Steins, as they were worth $25 each prior to December 21st (I think that's the day the ban hit) and $10 the day after.

Ally: Wouldn't that make UDE go broke though ~_^.

ExMod: Not if they put out the buyback payouts in product. e.g. wait until Destiny Draw or Malicious or stuff like that is $25 each, and swap a Stein for D-Draw. Trooper gets down to $50, send in 2 Steins for a Trooper, stuff like that. It's far too late for that now, but it would have been nice to see at least even 6-7 packs of product being exchanged per Stein.

Ally: That be nice, so money wouldn't go to waste. Do you think the banning of Cyber-Stein was a good idea since you liked your steins :P

ExMod: Oh, it was better for the game overall, I admit that. If it hadn't gotten banned before Christmas, there definitely would have been something wrong if it hadn't gotten banned in March.

Ally: Do you think Demise will get banned/limited by USE national time?

ExMod: No. If they do, that's unfair. Stein at least got to have an impact on one National. Demise isn't as broken as Stein. Between Pulling the Rugs, Cursed Seals, Wabokus/Threatening Roars, and potential other tech cards like Winged Kuriboh or Neko Mane King, you've got a LOT of options to deal with its searchers, its ritual spell, or the Demise itself.

Ally: People said there was more enough to stop Cyber-Stein and look what happened. Demise could turn the same way since their similar in ways. People sided in Kuriboh for Stein and it still wasnt enough. Also theres those chances of said person not drawing it due to bad hands. What you think about that?

ExMod: Possible, but one player getting a good hand and the other player getting a bad hand is always going to result in the good hand winning, regardless of whether or not the good hand was held by Demise OTK. 0-monster hands. ALL-monster hands. Three Monarchs with no way to get tribute fodder. Drawing all of your 1/1 removal against self-replacing monsters like Gadgets or Card Trooper. It happens in all decktypes.

Ally: You think Demise will get banned next list? Do you think it's stupid to limit ARA?

ExMod: Limiting ARA would be like limiting Future Fusion -- unfairly punishing decks that can make valid use of it that aren't one turn kill. If they're going to limit 1, limit Demise. Honestly, that's all you need to do. Even players who have standard decks will have a few answers to Demise -- Book of Moon, Bottomless, etc. This makes the Demise player actually think before carrying out the combo, and take more time to prepare, which could end up costing them the game if the deck isn't built right.

Ally: Even with those chainable cards to Demise it will still blow up the field leaving the opponent for a direct attack that could kill them in one turn like Doom Dozer, Megamoprh, Premature Burial, and metamorphisis. Still theres that chance that player may not have the finishing moves.

ExMod: Also true. I think we could just agree that the deck is very good, but not unbeatable, and siding against it is usually rewarded.

Ally: This is true hehe. Last banned/restriction question; You think Trap Dushshoot will see any restrictions like Mind Crush did?

ExMod: I actually hope so, glad you brought that up. Dustshoots in multiples have the power to absolutely cripple a person, almost regardless of deck type. I understand if it doesn't get any limit, but at the same time I wouldn't mind seeing that thing going to 1/deck -- and this is from a person who's siding CrushShoot just because of how danged powerful it can be.

Ally: You said at the beginning that you work for Beckett; how you manage that?

ExMod: Actually, that didn't start with Yu-Gi-Oh. That started back with Pokemon. I was a volunteer on www.allexperts.com, a site where anyone with expert knowledge in a certain area can sign up and volunteer. I'd been doing so for about a year, until that fateful day where I got a question titled "POKEMON MAGAZINE ARTICLES". That started me into Beckett's Pokemon magazine. One of the Yu-Gi-Oh writers left about a year later; I asked to fill his spot and it was okayed. I've been writing for both publications ever since.

Ally: Doesn't it get tiring to write for both and how many times a month you write for them?

ExMod: I write about 4 articles for each issue of Yu-Gi-Oh (which is a bi-monthly) and 1-2 articles per month for Pokemon (which is monthly.) It doesn't get tiring, as I can usually crank out the 4 Yu-Gi-Oh articles in 2, 3 hours tops. Usually 2. More time is spent getting the accurate decklists and putting the set abbreviations/numbers by the cards than writing the actual articles. The subject matter is fairly easy for both magazines.

Ally: What do you write about the most?

ExMod: Well, Beckett is very good to me in letting me choose my own subject matter. The two definite per issue of Yu-Gi-Oh are a deck about whatever monster they put on the cover of that issue, and the Ask the Master column -- that's basically All Experts-type ruling questions that I get paid for. (Sidenote: I'm the guru of the AllExperts Yu-Gi-Oh section, and no longer do Pokemon for them.)

Ally: Oh wow. You also write about Pokemon. What do you usually write about for the game? Also do you play the game a lot?

ExMod: ...to be honest, I haven't PLAYED the Pokemon TCG since Wizards lost control of it, and haven't played the video games since Ruby/Sapphire. I research them enough to keep up with them, and am still able to write good articles, but I only consistently play Yu-Gi-Oh.

ExMod: One more note on the Yu-Gi-Oh Beckett articles -- the other two per issue are usually my choice. I get to preach netdecking a lot thanks to those, and pretty much everything else I want to say other than talking about $HoloPullingMethod.

Ally: Do you ever preach about originality in your articles?

ExMod: Nope. If an original deck does do well, I'll cover it, but usually so others will start netting it. Like I said earlier, netdecking and beating the original creator with his own deck = funniest thing in Yu-Gi-Oh...

Ally: Especially OD Burn Deck ~coughs~. You mentioned hollo pulling can you tell the readers a little about that.

ExMod: Well...I'd rather not get into detail. There's enough detail on that on the message boards, and I know that advertisers frown on details of that information being posted on the main page. What I CAN say is that there are various ways to make sure you only buy packs that have foils without opening the packs. If you've ever gone to a store and bought a whole bunch of packs and not gotten one foil, it's probable that someone has used one of these methods to make sure they got all the foils.

Ally: Ok onto a different topic. How you create the point system?

ExMod: As my new Pojo name eludes to, I created a trading method that is commonly used on our trade boards today, that has become pretty much a full-time business for me.

Many years ago, before I even used holo-pulling methods, I bought quite a few packs of cards -- to the point where I had several thousand commons. Just to get rid of them, I sold them on eBay. The buyer asked if I had any more, and offered the same price.

So I thought to myself "Hmm, if I can get these cards constantly for cheaper than his

ExMod: buy price, I can make a profit!"

And on September 29, 2004, the point system was born.

The point system assigns a specific value to each rarity of card. Commons are 1 point, rares are 8.33, supers are 33.33, ultras are 66.66, and ultimates are 41.66. Each point is worth one cent in trade value. The point system offers a very low value per card in exchange for taking ANY card, as long as it's in mint condition, and not a strategy card or tip card, Sphinx card, or starter deck foil.

ExMod: I trade high-end items like Nintendo Wii, Sony PSP, XBox 360 Premium, and high-end cards like Card Trooper and Ultimate Raiza the Storm Monarch for bulk quantities of commons, rares, and foils, and sell off the bulk cards to grab bag dealers on eBay.

ExMod: Heck, I even traded a SJC Des Volstgalph for the equivalent of 160,000 commons! I made about $3,000 or so on that deal.

ExMod: : Over the past three years, I've made about $50,000 in profit from dealing in bulk.

Ally: Wow thats a lot to accomplish. Who you get the Desy from?

ExMod: One of my main bulk buyers happened to get it for cheap, who sold it to me, knowing I'd trade it for lots of cards and sell those back to him. It happened to be the one that Fili Luna won...so Outphase ended up indirectly making me A LOT of cash...one ex-Outphase member is probably grinding his teeth with rage right now at that one.

Ally: Hahah he'll get over it. Speaking of lots of moeny tell the readers how you came about lots of money from the lottery!

ExMod: Ahh yes, the Nobleman of Crossout story.

I live in Pennsylvania. We have a lottery game called Mix-n-Match up here. You pick 5 numbers out of 19, and you win a prize depending on how many you have, and how many were drawn in the same order you picked yours in.

I play the names (or abbreviated names) of various Yu-Gi-Oh cards. For example, Mirror Force would be shortened to FORCE, which would be 6 (F is the 6th letter in the alphabet), then 15, then 18, then 3, then 5, so 6-15-18-3-5.

ExMod: The day before the big draw, I went to play my lottery at the local convenience store. Instead of playing my numbers for the next two drawings, the clerk had played them for the next draw, twice. I didn't find this out until I got home...and was rather glad I didn't.

ExMod: I checked the numbers that Monday...12-15-14-2-5. In letters, that's L-O-N-B-E.

ExMod: As in NOBLE.

As in Nobleman of Crossout.

As in I played that combination, and thanks to the lottery screwup I had not one, but two tickets with all five numbers. Even though they weren't in the correct order, 5 numbers is still worth $2,000. The two numbers that WERE in the right places were $4. x2 tickets, that's $4,008. So Yu-Gi-Oh directly helped me win the lottery.

Ally: Basically you can really say YGO for the win here?

ExMod: Yeah, pretty much.

Ally: How did it feel winning over $4,000? Did you jump up in the air or something?

ExMod: I spent the next hour checking the Lottery website to make sure the numbers were right. Then I ended up staying up the whole night, until the local stores opened the next day and I'd be able to go redeem my tickets.

Ally: Hehehe well glad you won the lottery. All I ever won was $5.

ALLY: Well that concludes the interview. Would you please say a closing paragraph if you like?

ExMod: All right. I've got a few things I want to mention.

ExMod: First, people play this game, and are involved with this game, for different reasons. Some like to have fun, others want to earn a profit. Both sets of those players will go about things very differently, and we should learn to respect each others' differences.

Second, because I know this will rile up a few people on a certain forum, Snipe Hunter is an entirely balanced card that has no reason to be limited or banned. Ever.

ExMod: Also, just because you're better than another player doesn't give you the right to bash the other player. Honestly, those who do stupid stuff on message boards need to be held accountable for those things in real life. If you brag about scooping for cards online, you need to be banned from competitive play. If you admit to taking a scoop online, you need to be banned. If you bash another player online, tournament organizers should be be able to deny you entrance to their events based on your attitude.

ExMod: Same if you bash any tournament organizers or judges

ExMod: Finally, long live Pojo.com and long live Yu-Gi-Oh. I know my life wouldn't be the same without it.

Ally: well thanks for the interview. It was a pleasure ^_^.

 


 


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