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RikotheFoxKid on Yu-Gi-Oh!

November 2015 Forbidden/Limited List Review
October 30, 2015

I sat in my lecture, aimlessly browsing Reddit on my phone (because for whatever reason I can never pay attention in class; it’s a surprise that I do as well in school as I do). I stumbled across an amusing post on r/yugioh, asking why Burning Abyss Decks didn’t run Dark Core over “slower” cards like Karma Cut and Raigeki Break. I shared this post with my best friend, who also got a kick out of it.

 

A few minutes passed, and I got another message from him:

 

“Banlist”

“Holy **** this list”

“We did the right thing selling Shaddoll”

 

I’m surprised. I wasn’t expecting the list today, but from the sounds of it, something big happened. I decided to check it out.

 

 

“Wtf…”

“I don’t even…”

“What?”

“I’m so… surprised…”

 

“Nothing is real.”
“Nothing makes sense.”

“EVERYTHING IS DEAD”

 

 

After over three months of waiting, Konami finally graced us with an update to the Forbidden/Limited List, effective on November 9th (after YCS San Jose), and to say that it was a shock is a massive understatement. Many changes were made. Decks were hit hard. Those who clung to their meta Decks of the past year were met with the unpleasant reality that they’ll have to build something else to keep up. Those who were tired of the same Decks dominating since August of last year were ecstatic to see how much things will change.

 

Because this list changes everything. The game is not going to be the same.

 

Normally, I break down the list by section (newly Forbidden, newly Limited, etc.), and explain each change individually. I don’t think that’s appropriate this time around; the changes are vast, and no one change affects a Deck by itself like in the past; a good number of the relevant Decks suffered multiple hits this time around. Therefore, I think it’s much more appropriate to show the full list of changes and then analyze how each meta Deck is affected.

 

Prepare yourself:

 

NEWLY FORBIDDEN:
Apoqliphort Towers
Shurit, Strategist of Nekroz
El Shaddoll Construct
Evilswarm Exciton Knight

 

NEWLY LIMITED:
Qliphort Scout
Graff, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss
Mathematician
Nekroz of Brionac
Nekroz of Unicore
Ritual Beast Ulti-Cannahawk
El Shaddoll Fusion
Reinforcement of the Army

 

NEWLY SEMI-LIMITED:
Cir, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss

 

NEWLY UNLIMITED:
Chaos Sorcerer
Legendary Six Samurai - Shi En
Spellbook of Fate
Geargiagear

 

Taking a first glance at this, you can already tell that this is huge. Think of a meta Deck; it probably didn’t get away without something happening to it.

 

Generic Changes:

Evilswarm Exciton Knight to 0

This came as a big surprise to me; of all the cards that I thought could get hit, Exciton was not one of them. When I think about it though, I can see why. Exciton stole games; a field nuke is very hard to recover from, and Exciton could do it on a whim due to the sheer versatility of the Rank 4 engine. Not doing damage for the turn is a small trade-off for the advantage you get off of it. I won many games solely because of Exciton, and when testing post-list I found myself missing it a lot as a result.

 

Exciton was also a strong answer to Pendulum Decks; with several of those on the horizon, that may well have been another factor in its banning.

 

The four Unlimits

None of these cards are relevant anymore, so this doesn’t really change much. The one that I think has the most potential is Spellbook of Fate, simply because (in my opinion) Spellbook wasn’t powercreeped as hard as other Decks from the 2013-2014 era. It’s still subpar compared to other options, though.

 

Nekroz:

Changes: Shurit to 0, Brionac to 1, Unicore to 1

 

After having a dominating grip over the game since its release back in February, and only suffering minor hits, Nekroz finally got knocked down a lot. I expected Unicore to go to 1, and was not surprised by Brionac either; both of these would do an effective job of curbing the Deck.

 

But the banning of Shurit caught me completely offguard. That straight up removes any chance of the Deck having viability in the future metagame. Shurit did so much for the Deck that not being able to run him at all is going to be a much larger blow to the Deck than Brionac and Unicore being Limited. I think it’s safe to say that Nekroz’s reign is finally over.

 

Burning Abyss:

Changes: Graff to 1, Cir to 2

 

Hitting two of the three main Burning Abyss monsters does a number to the Deck’s ability to grind effectively. Burning Abyss excelled in the grind game, which allowed it to quite easily cover for its low ceiling. The engine is potent enough that it might still be able to do something, but with one third of its primary grind cards gone, along with poor matchups against future Decks, it looks like Burning Abyss is going to sink into the abyss.

 

Shaddoll:

Changes: Construct to 0, Mathematician to 1, El Shaddoll Fusion to 1

 

Shaddoll might have been able to survive with a Limit on El Shaddoll Fusion. It would have survived a Limit on Mathematician. It would have survived a Limit on Construct.

 

But banning Construct? It can’t survive that. Construct was the heart and soul of Shaddoll; she gave the Deck an incredibly powerful boss monster that also furthered its gamestate. Without her, the Deck can only play a control game with Shekhinaga as its best option, but this is much weaker. The OCG suffered similar hits a few lists ago, and the only variant of Shaddoll that was able to see regular play afterwards was Train Shaddoll; unfortunately, we don’t have a lot of the necessary cards for that build in the TCG. Until we get them, Shaddoll will probably lie dormant.

 

It’s a shame, because Shaddoll spent every format after The New Challengers being outclassed by something else; the Deck was good, but Burning Abyss, Qliphort, and Nekroz were just better. To see it get shafted so hard when it struggled to hold on for most of its lifespan is heartbreaking. But at the same time, had the Deck gotten away, it would have remained a top contender, especially with other Decks falling to the banlist. A strong Kozmo matchup would have solidified this, so it’s not too surprising it got as many hits as it did.

 

Qliphort:

Changes: Towers to 0, Scout to 1

 

Banning Towers eliminates Towers Turbo as a Deck, and Limiting Scout means Qliphort can’t reliably sit on floodgates as it gains more and more searches per turn.

 

Good riddance. This Deck was cancer, and even if it wasn’t dominant, it sure as hell wasn’t healthy for the game.

 

Satellarknight:

Changes: RotA to 1

 

After winning Worlds, people expected Satellarknight to be hit hard because of the “World’s Curse”. This wasn’t the case, and they got away with nothing more than a Limit on RotA. This is still significant, in my opinion, because it lowers the number of ways they can get to Deneb in both the early game and the late game. RotA is also a very powerful generic card, so I can understand why they decided to Limit it once more. Satellarknight probably isn’t dead, but it was already less relevant than other Decks, and with less ways to open Deneb, it may have to rely on the Star Seraph engine in order to keep up with what’s coming out.

 

Ritual Beast:

Changes: Ulti-Cannahawk to 1

 

I don’t get this. Ritual Beast has never been a dominant Deck, and it barely had  a place in the metagame. I really don’t know how they justified hitting this card when there were no results at all suggesting that the Deck warranted such a hit.

 

Ritual Beast is still playable with a single Ulti-Cannahawk, but you’ll have to take much more care in keeping it alive as a result, and the Deck already had issues with consistency, so it won’t be making an impact.

 

Unaffected Decks:

Infernoid and Kozmo both got away with no hits. Infernoid just won YCS Dallas, but its inherent consistency issues mean it’s not likely to be a major threat going forward, especially with what lies ahead. Kozmo getting away comes as no surprise, as it’s about to receive a large amount of support in Dimension of Chaos. You can expect Kozmo to be the primary Deck of the format at least until the Master of Pendulum Structure Deck, at which point it will have competition in the form of Magicians. 2016 will bring other Decks into the fray as well in the form of the Monarchs and everything coming out in Breakers of Shadow.

 

One Deck that also got away unscathed was Clownblade, which has been largely written off due to the banning of Lavalal Chain; despite this, it had two Top 32 showings (one of which made it to Top 16) at YCS Dallas, showing the Deck can in fact compete. The only loss the Deck suffered was Exciton Knight, and if the Deck follows the same path it did in the OCG, it will continue to evolve into a stronger Deck as more sets come out. With most of the metagame getting weakened, this may give Clownblade a chance to make a name for itself in the TCG.

 

Conclusion:

This is the largest meta shift caused by a banlist since the end of the Dragon Ruler formats. The metagame that has been around since Duelist Alliance has finally ended; Nekroz, Burning Abyss, Shaddoll, and Qliphort have all been hit to the point that they likely will not be able to compete in the future. Satellarknight will likely struggle to keep up with future Decks. We’re looking at a metagame that will likely be dominated by Kozmo for at least one month, at which point things will shake up again as better Pendulum Decks are released. Early 2016 is going to shake things up as well with Breakers of Shadow bringing a lot of powerful cards into the TCG.

 

An era of Yu-Gi-Oh! has ended, and a new one has begun. Everything is going to be different.

 

And I look forward to it.

 

~Riko

 


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