The CORRECT Ban List - fridginators ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Azza Fridginators" Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:30:46 +1100 Hi and welcome back to azza's (fridginators') two cents. Anyway, i am just here to say that konami/uppderdeck, whichever one it was has officially screwed up the game [insert 10 million rude words here]. Sorry JAElove, i was going to do this before i knew about your article, so im not copying you in any way at all. By the way im sorry for this being so late, i really could not be stuffed at all! But i am back now so all is good. By the way if anyone saw my Top 10 Warriors list, im sorry about marauding. Make it around 7, blade knight 8, ninja grandmaster 9 and mystic swordsman lv2 10. for those of you who didnt read it, nevermind then. GOOD MOVES BY KONAMI: Ok now for the kudos for konami. Magical Scientist: This guy deserved every inch of a ban he got. He is far too good, he turns the tides of duels so easily as long as you have 1000 life points. Sound familiar? *cough*CED*cough* The Forceful Sentry: I also agree with this. 1 for 1, that is always decent if its a spell AND it gives you a peek! It has no cost and is one of the best opening plays. Ban it and keep it there. Change of Heart: Now i like change of heart. But it makes tributing WAY WAY too easy, a 1 for 1 and a normal summoned tribute? Even besides that it is a GREAT top deck and if you have a monster and they are on low life it is like drawing exodia. Fiber Jar: Ahh, as JAElove said, if you ban Change of Heart it makes sense to ban Fiber. Good move, but since i only got fiber a week ago and my tourney starts the new season next week, i would have liked to test fiber for a bit long. But it's power is great, good move Konami. I used this beastie to win me about 3/4 duels out of 8! Mirage of Nightmare: Shut up. lol. This card is quite good when you pull it off, i just dont like the luck factor much. But it can turn tides of duels and it was worth banning. We dont want out Advanced being turned into Traditional. Plus even without mst/emergency/raigeki break it is handy if/when you have good ol serpent or night assailent (why restrict that to 2?) Unfortunately this is about it. If you asked me 6 months ago to make a list like this, i would have put EVERY CARD as a good job. And if you ask me i do NOT like any of the new additions/take offs. BAD MOVES BY KONAMI: ARGH! EVERYONE IS SUFFERING! Why on earth did Konami return the 3rd best card in the game, DELINQUINT DUO? It is too powerful, why give control its most powerful ally! REDUCE your opponents hand by a considerable amount! Serpent is great as a counter but nothing else is! I am really annoyed by this, why give people god hands of Pot, Delinquint and GRACEFUL CHARITY! Ok i do not like this new ban list. It some half assed tradtional! I would rather play tradtional and just play Mirage, Pot, Graceful and Painful, Delinquint, Confiscation and Forceful than just half of the tools. Honestly, why give us back graceful? This and Delinquint are making Serpent a STAPLE! I really think its becoming stupid. Control will run supreme again, well actually it always has................................................................................. .......................... shut up, lol. But honestly returning Graceful and DD? If you get those, pot and Serpent you basically win, you get 2 for 1, 3 for 2, and 2 for 1 of your opponents, AND you then have DD protection. I can see myself trying to get some thunder dragons. Vampire Lord: Argh why semi this guy? it is totally stupid! Ok i admit i overated the ability of 2 of them but still. Jae, DDA are NOT as good as DDWL to combat the zombie menace. Scientist's ban alone makes this move very stupid, it would be stupid even with the old advanced! CCZ is pretty much what i have to say, say hello to the new cookie cutter zombies. At least there is one pro: It makes chaos not a cookie cutter! Well not as much of one anyway, but even Jae and Regnr8 run BLS in some of their decks. Whoops, this is supposed to be about V Lord ><. Anyway, kudos to konami if you want 2 v lords to show up in most decks now. DDWL: ARGH! This is a total nightmare! I dont think DDWL even deserved this! It is not a powerful card on its own. It is meant to be in the deck/hand ready to pop up. She is not a powerful lass singularly. She will probably NEVER be used on Turtles anymore, or any other searcher, just V lords and BLS. But this hurts chaos a lot, no matter what other people say. She is THE best light to run in your deck. She single handedly made shining angel playable in a lot of decks besides light/fairy. So i give konami a nice mooning for this! United We Stand: Honestly, why on earth would you unban this card? This is utter stupidity without even SEMI LIMITING scapegoat! It is run in 3's in almost any deck. This card can make anything a BEAST! If you have even 2 monsters on the field one of them gets an amazing 1600 atk boost! And why not introduce 5000 attack sangans konami? This card should stay on the ban list until scapegoats are dealt with properly. And btw, this card owns mage power, it needs 4 m/t on your field to overpower this if you have 2 face up monsters. Mirror Force: Why lord oh Why? We dont need this! It is a great card! We dont have like any m/t removal anymore and this card is WAY better than torrential. Torrential doesnt offer you enough of a fair trade. Mirror Force loves all these reckless attacks and then kills all your opponents monsters. Sure, it will only replace sakuretsus but is still a broken powerhouse. It has too much potential like all of the cards taken off. Sangan: Sheesh, im just waiting on my computer for my inbox to EXPLODE with hate mail. I do not like this too much. Sangan has always been great, well not with MRD or MRL/PSV but anyway. His effect is guarenteed card advantage for you. You get ANY 1500- monster you need. Not nearly as helpful as witch but this allows you to thin your deck and search for your serpent/ddwl/whatever. However, we were starting to think outside the box and run Tomato, Apprentice, Reinforcements, and alll kinds of other thinners. We now how WAY too many ways (argh wording issues) to get monsters now! Sangan has too much potential. Ok, so basically all the take offs were bad moves. I am NOT even going to discuss the stupid moves of semi limiting chick and emergencies. Wait, i am! Why semi them? Did anybody run 3 Emergencies? DID ANYONE EVER USE THE MAKYURA/ CHICK/CALL COMBO IN THEIR LIFE? (if you have email me and ill fix your deck or what not) If you wanna destroy them then RESTRICT them! Sheesh konami, i think i will have more to add to the list of drug influences. Maybe you have employed ferrets........................ MOVES THAT SHOULD (not) HAVE BEEN MADE: Banning Painful Choice: I do not agree with this, i guess with graceful stupidly back this had to go, but i love it so much. Berserk being Restricted: Seriously, this guy is too powerful. He kills so much, and the fact that he is a constant attacker by applying pressure. 1/4 of your life points isnt funny when it goes away in a hurry. Semi'ing this guy at the least would have been very handy and nice for the meta. Spirit Reaper/Pyramid Turtle Restricted/Semi: These guys give zombie tons of power. If you semi V lord, take away some of zombies power so v lord isnt as powerful anymore. Book of Life: Ditto. Banning ALL generic monsters, Breaker, Serpent, Tribe and BLS: All of these should have got the boot. Jaelove is right, why dont we have a game where monsters are DEPENDANT on one another? Why not follow the earth deck with its great synergy and non generic monsters and suicidal monster counts and make a game that will make every deck the least bit original. BLS is obvious, Tribe is way more powerful than torrential, Serpent makes discarding NOTHING and it should be a proper cost and Breaker is too used and its not right to ban mst or heavy storm. Unbanning CED: joking joking joking, although i do have 2 now.............. Its not a ban thingo but when are we gonna get DDVD? And konami, DONT give it a stupid name, doesnt Deck Destruction Virus of Magic sound WAY cooler than the stupid Deck Devestation Virus? Banning Confiscation: This was stupid, many of my friends have taken it out when we are compressed for space. It is good, but not THAT great. Forceful owns this in every way, especially since it has more holofoil :P. Banning Makyura: I understand this in Japan with ROW (reversal of worlds: you can only activate this card when your graveyard has 15 or more cards in it. pay 1000 life points and switch both players decks with their graveyards) but in English it was just a cool card that in the hand of experts would be deadly. Not worth banning, why not just restrict it? Banning Elma: Ditto once again, use transform to morph into your opponents Charizard. DITTO, USE FIRE BLAST. MWA HA HA HA HA HA. Semi Restricting Gravity Bind and Level Limit: Why? Does anyone really play burn, and if so does burn NEED less power? "" "" Abyss Soldier: Do enough people play water? Besides, who runs 3 abyss soldiers? Needless to say i was SO disappointed in this ban list. I wasnt at first, but then i thought about how much it kills the game. I love the game though, so i will still play it. By the way, here are my changes to the ban list and NO i am not bothered to write EVERY card so i am just announcing the changes from the list as effective from April 1. By the way, my friend had the wicked idea of banning every card that was originally a super rare or higher. ie: not banning pot cos it was originally a rare but banning limbs and head of exodia cos they were originally ultras. how about a deck with 3 chaos sorcerors, 3 ninja grandmasters, 3 light of intervention and 3 giant orcs along with archfiend soldiers and hysteric fairys etc etc etc. Great fun, budget is no limit and depends on the players skill. Oh stuff it i will right the whole bleeding list. Wait actually i wont. I have been doing this bits here and bits there for about a smegging month! Meh ill finish it now. I will only write the changes of the stuff affected. BAN LIST CHANGES Breaker- ON BLS- ON Tribe- ON Serpent- ON Delinquint Duo- ON Graceful Charity- ON Sangan- ON Mirror Force- ON Snatch Steal- ON (might as well ban generic cookie cutter cards) why do i bother writing ON? RESTRICTED LIST CHANGES Vampire Lord Painful Choice Confiscation Butterfly Dagger - Elma Makyura the Destructor SEMI RESTRICTED LIST CHANGES D.D.Warrior Lady Book of Life Pyramid Turtle Spirit Reaper D.D.Assailant Deck Destruction Virus of Magic :P. Not saying the "rentsy" stupid name. Scapegoat CARDS IN LIMBO (not restricted in anyway) Abyss Soldier Night Assailant Good Goblin Housekeeping Gravity Bind Dark Scorpion - Chick the Yellow Emergency Provisions Now for those who say my list is "Anti-Zombie" its just that zombies would be powerful anyway. I didnt knock em down that much. 2 Pyramid Turtles is fine, Warriors only have 2 Reinforcements! Hopefully this list will give way to more creative buliding. Chaos is fine all those people. I like it myself. But 2 V lords is just sick and wrong! Not everyone has DDA and nor can they take out turtles/reapers. Stupid Scientist Ban/DDWL restriction. So here is my HUGE list. Props to Karl and George. Karl for selling me more than half my deck and George for still playing. Anteus and Sean, you guys rock! And remember what uncle azza says: DONT RUN 2 V LORDS, IT IS NEARLY AS CHEAP AS SCIENTIST FTK! ONLY RUN 2 V LORDS AGAINST SOMEONE WITH 3 DDA AND 1 DDWL. Otherwise, may the Chaos and My soon to be DOMINATING GRAVEKEEPERS ROAM SUPREME! Heh, just one thing. I bought a vortex for tons. Only to buy 5 FET and then get a vortex and phoenix. Traded the phoenix for a DB1 pot and 4 boosters and gravekeepers. Pretty nice huh? Im rambling. So sue me. *insert witty line here* Ill do some more decks/talko thingies soon. Honestly why doesnt Tranorix just let me have a column? Hope this was long enough :P azza / fridginators ph33r th3 fr1dg35