Subject: lord of d's dragons tip people always seem to make this mistake. the dragons u play with the flute of summoning dragon are immune to magics or traps AND monster card effects while they r on the field! so lets say, the player uses rageki.It kills lord of d, BUT just cannot kill the dragons the turn lord of d is destroyed! even if lord of d is killed by rageki, the magic card's effect is activated on everything it says it would do! so that means dark hole and rageki are used against the dragons, but they are not destroyed! On the other hand lord of d is not immune to these magic's or traps or monster card effects, so it'll say bye bye. So I would advise to have a magic jammer or seven tools of the bandit or even solemn judgment to help your lord live a longer amount of time! well I hoped that helped you duelists out there!!c-ya later!! amanrab! Aman256@aol.com