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Pojo's Magic The Gathering
Card of the Day

Vengeful Dreams

Card Color: W
Mana Cost: WW
Type & Class: Instant
Card Text: As an additional cost to play Vengeful Dreams, discard X cards from your hand. Remove X target attacking creatures from the game.

Pojo's Average Rating -
Constructed: 2.96 (5 Reviews)
Limited: 4.05 (4 Reviews)
Reviewed March 27, 2002

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1 being the worst.  3 ... average.  
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All the dreams are inherently card disadvantage, they are all fairly good in Limited. This one is an obvious powerhouse and should be considered so.  But playing this color is usually your downfall, only a 4. It will never see constructed play in a competitive deck, a 1.


I'm not sure why Inquest would think this card is good outside of Limited. It's a bomb in Limited, but it's too little card advantage in Constructed to make an impact. Why play this when you can Wrath? 1 card for many is better than being down one card minimum plus trading one for one for their creatures.
Dream Rating: It's like that dream where you're in bed with a beautiful woman, and your alarm goes off before anything interesting happens.
Constructed Rating: 2
Limited Rating: 4


Most of the dreams cards are useful.  Well, at least they seem like they are at first glance.  I think the only real problem with them is that many times you don't have the cards to discard to get the desired effect that you want or to take full advantage of the card.

Limited yields the same problems.  However, Vengeful dreams is better in limited, because of the lack of removal sometimes.  It's also good because you end up with a higher percentage of land that you can get rid of.

Constructed: 2.3
Limited: 2.7

John B

Ok, but not quite ok enough (too situational) to justify the loss of simple card advantage. Adjusted for impact on the game, there's no loss in advantage, but still you'll be staring at a Vengeful Dreams in your hand too long for me to feel comfortable putting it in a deck. 2.5

Judge Bill

Now, this is a card that I am trying very hard to use, even in the place of Wrath of God. In a control heavy environment, where you just have to get rid of 1-2 creatures versus 5-6+, this card in my opinion is better than Wrath of God. It has a lower casting cost, and all you need is 1-2 spare lands in hand. It is also an instant, allowing you to fight the battle on their turn. 

In limited, even with the 18-20 creatures in a deck, there are usually only 1-3 game breakers that you really have to deal with. And eventually plenty of land to fuel it.

Constructed: 4
Limited: 4.5

John Hornberg

A card that deserves a lot better a placing than 8th. I mean, give me a break, this card wrecks in both constructed and limited. It helps reach Threshold, which makes white a little more relevant in many decks. This is perhaps the best white card in the set for both constructed and limited, and I give it a 5 in constructed. I hurts your card advantage, but it gives you an effect that is almost unbelievable for this 4 to 8 deck creature format (Tog, Enforcer, and Tempo-Threshold surprisingly).

In limited, it is a first pick, hands down. Don't argue with me, I know what I'm talking about. It's mass destruction of creatures, and best of all, only your opponent's creatures.


I give it a 5 in limited. You have to be nuts or not know truely how to play to give it a rating lower than that.


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