Subject: Re: Cell Saiyan that can win ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "lizz flynn" *************** Well, you have a lot of interesting questions, and I feel like this tech would be done easier by writing in between your deck/email. Hope that makes sense. Good Luck. Very nicely done. *************** Main Personality-4 Cell Stage One (HT) Cell Stage Two Cell Perfect Cell The Destroyer >> Looks ok. I guess you could get away without a level 5. << Mastery-1 Saiyan Style Mastery (TS) >> Lockdown eh? Fun stuff. << Sensei-1 Master Roshi Sensei 2xBlack Scout Menuever 2xSaiyan Onslaught 2xGoku's Blinding Strike 1xHuh??? 1xSaiyan Headshot 1xHero's Heart is Strong >> Roshi or North, Roshi or North... either works I guess. The only that >> is kinda odd are the Onslaughts. I'd probably throw in another AHHIS. >> Otherwise pretty solid. << Non-Combat-8 2xSaiyan Inspection 1xFatherly Advice 1xFrieza Is Ready 1xForebodeing Evidence 1xVageta's Quickness Drill 1xExpectant Trunk's 1xWhere There's Life There's Hope >> Wow. Can't argue with any of your choices. << Location/Battleground-3 1xWinter Countryside 1xMajin Babidi's Ship 1xCity In Turmoil >> Here is where I'd make some changes. I'd go with CIT, WC, and Cell's >> Arena. Cell's Arena gives you lockdown, which is what the TS Mastery >> does best. I think you can go with two of either CIT or Arena. << Combat-26 3xAndroid 18 Stare Down 3xTrunk's Energy Sphere 3xCell's Style 2xCell's Instant Transmission 2xCell's Presence 2xPure Defense 2xGohan Meditates - This seems like it is expendable. 1xCell's Threatening Position 1xCell's Defense - Hmm... might cut for room. 1xTime is A Warrior's Tool 1xSuper Saiyan Effect 1xStupid Tricks - This might be expendable. 1xAndroid 17 Smirks 1xDazed 1xBattle Pausing 1xSaiyan Truce Card >> I would add Aura Clash to the deck. Cell's biggest weakness is the >> fact that his Power level is junk now, and thus you probably will >> want to get to level 2. His level is quite good, and don't forget you >> will want to mess over decks that rely on level 1. I would also run >> Power of the Dragon to stall DB decks, and in turn pull Andorid 14 or >> a Cell Jr, which can help add on the beatdown. << Physical Combat(Blocks)-7 3xPikkon's Leg Catch 2xSaiyan Lightning Dodge 2xTrunk's Swiftly Moving >> If that's enough for you, that's enough for me. Wrist Block can do >> life cards, and Power Block/Blocking Technique are good options. In >> lockdown you've got a good choice though. << Energy Combat-10 3xSaiyan Planet Explosion 2xSaiyan Focus 1xSaiyan Elusion 1xGoku's Energy Absorption 1xFrieza's Force Bubble 1xNappa's Energy Aura 1xGohan's Nimbus Cloud >> The only thing I can see that you could cut is Nimbus. You already >> have two Cell's Instant Teleportation, and can only get WC with >> Nimbus anyway. << Physical Combat-25 (Attack) 3xSaiyan Destiny 3xSaiyan Face Stomp 3xSaiyan Face Smash 3xSaiyan Flying Tackle 3xSaiyan Cross Chop - Funny thing is I have never heard of this card. 3xMajin Buu's Heel Kick 2xSaiyan Charge 2xCell's Charge - Probably don't need this. 2xMajin Buu's Childish Taunt 1xGoku's Dashing Punch >> Here's where your work needs to be done. Saiyan has broke cards like >> Saiyan Surprise, Saiyan Cliff Slam, Saiyan Brace, Saiyan Stop, Saiyan >> Lurch (for Jerring Drill for even MORE lockdown), Saiyan Beef, Saiyan >> Acute Rapid Slam, Saiyan Dashing Kick, Saiyan Strength Blast, Saiyan >> Power Beam, and so forth that you are missing out on. Even if Cell >> seems weak, you do have the TS mastery, and can lower them to zero. >> Don't forget that. Also, while Taunt is good, you might be able to >> get away without it. Maybe. << I saw this deck perform at the last SF Regionals when my friend used a version (much weaker) of this deck and well it really outdone itself since it beat 3 PTT decks (2 Namekian and 1 Black). >> SF Regionals? I was there ^_^. I live in the SF Area. I had the >> wacked out nonTW Roshi ally deck... << My friend beat PTT decks using Cell's Instant Transmission to fetch out Majin Babidi's Ship and then using the Saiyan mastery to lower the MP PS by 4 which meant that it could not perform any energy attacks. So my question is Could this deck be regional worthy? >> Interesting. I'd now run Lurch for Jeering Drill. Is this deck >> Regional worthy? Right now Broly is all the rage honestly. Saiyan is >> very very good. Can this win? It can. I don't see why it can't. It >> isn't Broly, but it is still Saiyan. Try out the changes, mainly >> because KBS came out. It might, but I won't guarantee it would win. >> If Cell faced Broly, my money would be on Broly though. << If not than what should I do to improve on it. Also do you think that Alt. Namek Dragon Ball 7 is broken since it reads "As long as you control this dragon ball, your opponent cannot use his mastery card". >> Try capturing it and watch your opponent suffer ^_^. << One last thing could you tell me on how to beat the fallowing decks please: >> I'm assuming with your Saiyan right? << Cell Namekian >> Jeering Drill, Scout Maneuver on key cards, CIT, Beef (big key) << Goku Freestyle >> Hope you don't get killed first turn. North Kai/Mass removal of >> Drills, correctly take your physicals, keep your opponent off balance >> and lock him down. Big key is board control (CIT). << Majin Buu Red (Anger) >> CTP. Honestly here you don't have many options. Speed is key. You >> could run a little more anti-anger. You don't ever want your opponent >> to level and gain stages. If you lock down your opponent most likely >> they cannot gain anger. << Swordplay Decks >> CIT again. North Kai/Mass Removal. Without their Drills, you can beat >> Sword if you don't fall into a bad combat. << and SWK decks. >> 1-3 anger... and guess right. Well actually there isn't a real good way to beat her. She varies from deck to deck. Constantly pour the attacks on. That's probably the best way in your case. << Thank you. >> You're Welcome. << -- matthewlow@franceslow.com "You will not be allowed to do this to anyone else!" - Gohan --