Subject: going first VS going second going first vs second lets start with first ADVANTAGES 1)set up traps, magic effects,monsters and counters first a)first person who can play robin goblin w/ a removal flip effect + a masked sorcerer (opponent discards 2 you draw 1) *play all your card then play chain energy then laugh(he loses 500 points for each card he puts down and since he has no cards you'll hurt him) b)counters are very easy to play Disavantage a)well change of heart+summon skull b) a monster in attack mode is very weak first turn and can't be used(fissure + any removal) c)field is open for destruction w/ removal(dark hole+heavy storm) Going SECOND: sword and shield the advantages and disavantages of going first and that is how going second is. RECOMENDATION: if your first put a monster in defense mode(preferably w/ flip effect)if second beat the living hell out of him if you can but be careful. Samuel Ranellucci Please give any comment at Samuel_ran@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month.  Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp