Subject: beatdown decks by Celtic Guardian I just want to say that beatdowns should not be played anymore. They're just too often seen and so easily countered. I haven't even played one game yet and I've got 3 deck ideas that would easily trash any beatdown deck. For instance: 3 messenger of peace all staple magic except for coh and se 2 sangan 2 wobf mon removal + some defensive mons tons of equip bunch of weak mons - about 1300-1450 atk 2 sorl 3 magic jammer 3 mof basic trap- trap hole, woboku, mf, etc. This deck stops all beatdown mons from attacking (except for effects like MEB). I'd power up the little itty-bitty weaklings and beat the crap out of all those beatdowns. That is probably the best of the three: the others are as follows: an extremely dangerous burner with like 100 cards and the other is a light based deck based on hoshiningen and cards coming out in the future that will let me give Hoshiningen infinite atk and all those darks exactly 0. Only way to get past that's S&S, which isn't in any beatdown deck. Please don't email me for details of the decks because all I have is a rough sketch in my mind of what is in these things. Also no hate mail or talking about how great beatdowns are- if you do I'll go buy the cards, build these decks, and challenge you to a duel. socbert@fuse.net