Subject: Correction on Spear Cretin-Oberon Ok, now I have this card and I was reading the CoTD for Spear Cretin. I just have to say a couple of things. I love the idea of this card. And all of the reviews looked really good except one guy *can't remember his name sorry* Said that it had to be flipped first then destroyed... Now to the best of my knowledge when someone attacks a face down flip effect monster it gets flipped up and the effect is triggered then it is sent to the graveyard. So, Spear Cretin's effect is triggered when your opponent attacks. Now the only way I can figure out how to get that card's use fool-proof is to play a card that can remove one of your opponent's cards in the graveyard from play... I dunno if there is any card that does this but it would be an awsome combo. Oberon-earthdrago@aol.com