Pojo, This is another kewl strategy from Neo Discovery that I thought up. I was looking at my Poliwrath NH from Neo 2 and thought it wasnt that great because it did 20 to itself. But after thinking thought that it wasn't so bad. Here are some card translations for the Stage 1: Poliwhirl and Basic: Poliwag. BS Poliwag 40 HP [W] Water Gun [10+]: This attack does 10 damage plus 10 damage for every [W] energy card attached to Poliwag. You cannot add more than 20 damage in this way. Neo Discovery Poliwag 40 HP [1] Rollout [10] [W] Hypnosis: The defending Pokemon is now Asleep. BS Poliwhirl 60 HP [WW] Amnesia: Choose one of the defending Pokemon's attacks you may not use this attack next turn. [WW1] Doubleslap: [30x] Flip 2 coins. Does 30 damage times the # of heads. Neo Discovery Poliwhirl 70 HP [1] Belly Drum: Put 3 damage counters on Poliwhirl. If this doesn't knock out Poliwhirl, search your deck for 2 basic energy cards and attach them to Poliwhirl. Shuffle your deck afterward. [WW1] Water Gun [30+]: Does 30 damage plus 10 more damage for each [W] energy attached to Poliwhirl but not used to pay for this attack. You cant add more than 20 damage in this way. Neo Discovery Poliwhirl 90 HP [F] [F1] Corkscrew Punch [30] [FF2] Submission Does 20 damage to Poliwhirl. [70] Those are the spoilers I put out. I didn't bother with the BS Poliwrath as the strategy is with the Neo Discovery Poliwrath. Now I know 20 damage is bad especially when doing it to yourself but when you have a Berry attached to him you do 70 damage with hardly any effect except discarding your berry. For the Stage 1 and Basic. I would recommend any Poliwag. I like Base Set's Poliwag but some people like the Neo 2 one. For Poliwhirl's I like the Neo 2 one. With Gold Berry get the damage off of Poliwhirl and 2 Fighting energy cards attached to Poliwhirl for the upcoming evolution Poliwrath (Neo Discovery). Well Thats it for this time. Matt Bishop pcgamer1500@msn.com Plez send comments on my strategy but plez no hate mail, bashing, or virus related e-mails. Thanx!!! Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com