Subject: Extended Sneak attack This is a red/black deck (sort of). I THINK it should work, never tried it though cause of my lack of funding and the lack of extended tournaments in my area. I don't even really have a decklist, but here's the idea: black and red are good for killing off creatures, so you waste your opponent's early threats with burn and elimination until you can build to four mana. Then you either play a sneak attack or diabolic tutor for it (Sneak attack= Enchantment, 3R. R: Put a creature from your hand into play. That creature gains haste. Sacrifice that creature at end of turn.) Either way, you get a sneak attack in play and start casting either Apocalypse's penumbra creatures like penumbra wurm or kavu, or Onslaughts symbiotic creatures. (Don't worry about them being green; you should never need to pay their casting costs anyway). Basically, when you sac them at EOT, they will leave behind either the token copy or the insects depending on which creature, so you get to swing more than just the once. If anyone has success with this or already has tried it I'd appreciate your feedback at "thomasmp@toadmail.com". Thomas The Great